Boeing Heads South For Better Business Climate: Washington State Politicians Are Surprised?
by Amber GunnOn Wednesday, Boeing announced it would put a second 787 assembly line in Charleston, S.C., rather than Everett, WA.

Union leaders and politicians like Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash., expressed shock, dismay and outrage at the company’s decision.
Either they are feigning surprise, or they’ve been comatose for the last decade. Your guess is as good as mine.
For years, politicians and labor leaders in Washington have ignored Boeing’s pleas to stay competitive. In 2002, Boeing CEO Alan Mulally told the State House Labor Committee that “the state of Washington is not competitive. . . . meaning it costs us more to operate [here].” He specifically pointed to Washington’s costly workers’ compensation system, which requires employers to purchase insurance coverage from the state or be on the hook to cover all claims costs themselves, rather than allowing them to choose from among competing private providers. As a result, Washington collects some of the highest premiums from employers and injured worker rates are well above the national average.
Boeing’s decision to place its second 787 line in South Carolina is too complicated, however, to be blamed on any single factor. In 2002, Mulally told lawmakers that Washington would have to become more competitive in taxes, unemployment insurance (UI) and regulations, among other factors, in order to keep the state attractive for Boeing.
Unfortunately, rather than engaging in an honest discussion about reform in these areas, legislators decided on a $3.2 billion “incentive package” that included some UI and workers’ comp. reforms. Just a few years later, however, the legislature rescinded many of those changes. The Evergreen Freedom Foundation fought a lengthy battle to get the details of the state’s contract with Boeing. Once we finally got them (the unredacted portions), we discovered that Boeing could walk away from the deal at any point without penalties, whereas Washington was on the hook for pricey commitments until Boeing decided to cease building 787s.
This is one of many examples illustrating why one-on-one handouts between governments and businesses are bad for taxpayers, and in the long run, bad for the businesses themselves. Once the luster of the handout runs out, the business will scramble for another, and another, and so on. Better to build a strong business climate across-the-board, which is good for large and small companies alike.
Washington’s competitiveness, from a labor standpoint, is dismal. Other states should take note. South Carolina is a right-to-work state, meaning workers do not have to be members of a union as a condition of employment. Workers at the South Carolina plant where Boeing plans to locate its second 787 line recently voted to remove the union from the plant—an unlikely feat in Washington given our current labor laws and the history of organized labor in this state.
It would be difficult to overstate labor’s role in Boeing’s decision to forego expansion in Washington. In September 2008, we wrote that Boeing machinists would likely get much more than they had bargained for when they went on strike. “Given the machinists’ apparent disregard for economic realities and their totally unsustainable demands on their employer, Boeing would be wise to take its business elsewhere.” And so it is.
The 2008 strike was Boeing’s fourth in just two decades, and, at 57 days, the longest since the 69-day strike in 1995, which “poisoned morale for years.” According to the AP, the 2008 strike cost Boeing $100 million a day in deferred revenue and postponement of the 787. That kind of loss won’t be recouped for years.
Boeing’s final offer to the machinists prior to last year’s strike included a 14 percent monthly pension increase, a 2008 lump-sum bonus worth about $3,900 on average, a generous new incentive-pay plan and other perks. All told, Boeing estimated the package was worth an additional $34,000 in extra compensation to the machinists over three years.
But it wasn’t enough.
When Boeing made the final decision to expand in South Carolina, the company was sending a loud signal to politicians and labor leaders in Washington that the company had had enough. Boeing’s vice president of human resources and one of the lead negotiators in the talks with the machinists told the Seattle Times that the company was “unwilling to indulge the kind of last-minute brinkmanship that has been typical in all recent contract negotiations with the [machinists].”
Unions and politicians alike would do well to remember that capital is mobile. Companies have a bottom line and they must respect it. Businesses will go where they must to operate more efficiently and increase their profit margins.
Politicians should take note. In the end, Boeing had the last laugh.






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Good for Boeing, and congrats to South Carolina!
The Liberal Fascist Militants have bankrupted the west coast. California, Oregon and Washington are upside down, thanks to the liberal mindset of handouts. UNIONS broke the airline (flight) industry in the 90's, there is no reason for them to continue breaking the manufacturing industry. Let Bill Gates and the rest of the libtards bail out Washington State.
Another liberal union footbullet. Most excellent.
i have often wondered about handing new business a good new tax deal, isn't it like saying to your current businesses, screw you, we want new business, not your business. also once the bidding begins for offering tax incentives to entice companies to move to your town or state, let the bidding begin anew when the sweetheart deal is over. if towns or states would have real economic benfits for all of its businesses, they wouldn't have to play this game. i think it is a insult when mayors or governors offer these tax incentives to companies not doing business, but never seem to want to offer tax incentives for the idiots paying their extortion business expenses now.
Based on the current problems with our economy, if these fascist Militants get back into office, I will move from this Country. America needs to wake up and replace all 535 in congress. These idiots should not be allowed to hold office for longer then 2 terms. Don't be surprised if you see many companies just leave this Country all together.
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Based on the current problems with our economy, if these fascist Militants get back into office, I will move from this Country. America needs to wake up and replace all 535 in congress. These idiots should not be allowed to hold office for longer then 2 terms. Don't be surprised if you see many companies just leave this Country all together.
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Way to go Boeing! Let the socialist bastards eat cake
Hahahahhahahahaha….hahahahahhhahaaa….breeeeathe….hahahhahaa
Sorry, I just can't get the smile off my face. But I still don't know whether is funny or SAD that the Libs and Unions STILL refuse to acknowledge (oh, don't worry – privately they DO know and do get it) what's wrong with their own.
"Workers at the South Carolina plant where Boeing plans to locate its second 787 line recently voted to remove the union from the plant." – that's my vote for Quote of the Year!!!
Washington State has never learned from the two old adages that "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush" and "bullshit talks and money walks". Perhaps Washington State should be talking with Michigan leaders and the UAW, Nahhhhhhh they still do not understand how they badly failed their state residents and members with their arrogance and greed .
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I should feel sorry for the Boeing workers but these are the same schmucks who cheered on the union strikers every dang time when they had some of the best job security & benefits in the state.
Washington is the next California (maybe we'll wait for New York) and the legislators are driving out families and middle class workers in their attempts to make the state more "progressive" (gag) by attracting single 20-something yuppies who for some reason will pay $3,000 for an effieiceny apartment per month.
Last question–Why the heck do liberals get all the pretty states? California, Oregon, Washington, etc. They take them & ruin them while conservatives get stuck with cornfields. No offense to cornfield dwellers but I don't see that as a fair exchange.
Looks like Washington is trying to be like Michigan. Wake up America
Michigan…Don't forget Michigan.
We have been seeing this trend for a while, transplant auto company's won't set foot within 500 miles of Michigan. BMW, Mercedes, Toyota, VW et al. are all located in the non-union south.
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Way to go Boeing!!! I hope the Unions are cying a river over this one. This is exactly what they deserve. I do feel sorry for those who would have worked for less incentives, Now the Union leaders and those who were so greedy during negotiations for the lost jobs in the area bare the responsibility for their demise. I hope the Car Mfg. get the same idea. All Unions who push and push for these cadillac perks should lose. I was not against Unions in the past, but I realize they have hurt more than help and cause a lack of newly created jobs, not to mention the added cost to the products to pay for their rediculous perks. Ha, ahd they wonder why jobs go overseas. Maybe other plants/employees will oust their Unions in order to get jobs to support theri families. Those jobs, by the way, still pay fairly well.
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and Good for Boeing
Who could ever forget the economic wasteland that is Detroit. The only large city where the average price of decent quality inner city housing couldn't purchase the seller a new skidoo. Its industry fled the graft fill streets of Big Union's home town for the south and economic freedom.
All these sweetheart deals for new businesses are deadly for economies…
Eclipse Aviation, former makers of VLJ (very light jets), died here in Albuquerque, and left the politicians holding the bag after the bankruptcy…a very expensive bag…with nothing in it but a parcel of land, some tooling, and a building…
Its trying to come back as Eclipse something or other, with the few actual aircraft owners trying to get the machinery operating, just to service their own machines…and maybe new ones down the line…
The fight to find all the money in deposits for non-existent aircraft continues…
Actually its "ownership" and how the worst fleecers of what they consider "their own" industrial base assume once a company has set up shop its economically impossible for them to reconsider. The bad news for these cities and states is that corporate America has stopped looking at the short term and is taking the long view on its viability to both share holders and bond holders. GM proved better than any that being dominated by the unions destroys a stock and invalidates any bond issuance. So try and raise capital in that environment? Might as well setup a refrigeration plant in Death Valley.
Next move will be out of the country. Keep it up you dimwitted liberals we’ll all be on the government teat soon enough.
Businesses are welcome here in the South, it's their liberal minds that are not welcome.
The AFL-CIO at Boeing is upset this week, but in the next week or two they may get a sweet, sweet consolation prize: A change in the rules for unionizing airlines that will let them come in the door with only a majority of those workers voting, not a majority of all affected workers. AFL-CIO has asked for a change in the rules right in the middle of their (probably failing) drive to unionize the merged Delta-and-Northwest Airlines. They'll probably get it, thanks to the Obama administration's changes to the NLRB's membership.
Thanks Cowboy. That bit of news sure made my coffee taste a lot better this morning. Scuzzysorosfava was just another turncoat who needs to go back to eating poundcake and watching the View.
This is one of many results of Outlandish Union demands for wages and benifits above the norm. Thank the Unions for driving thier OWN jobs away and overseas………………………..
"Union leaders and politicians like Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash., expressed shock, dismay and outrage at the company’s decision."
The same Patty Murray that Michelle Malkin described as clueless. She had no idea what FICA taxes were.
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/02/15/sen-patty-mu...
The same Patty Murray who "told a group of high-school students in her state that the U.S. should adopt Osama bin Laden's nation-building tactics" shortly after 9/11:
http://70.85.195.205/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=...
In repeatedly electing this clueless liberal moonbat the good citizens of Washington state deserve their economic decline. Good for Boeing in fleeing the area.
First they open up the second, non-union, assembly line in South Carolina…
Then they announce that due to lagging demand they only need the most cost-efficient line, in SC…
The common thread with all of our economically failing states is the spending and corruption habits of the Democrat legislatures that have been entrenched in them. Add New Jersey, Michigan, New York and Pennsylvania to the list. It's the old rust belt Democrat/union entrenched states too. People and jobs have been fleeing for years from them.
My Hats off to Boeing. A step in the right direction in a struggeling economy.
"Politicians should take note. In the end, Boeing had the last laugh". As a resident of WA state, I watched the way this liberal govenrnment and unions jerked the company around and now the unions are saying their strong arm tactics had no influence on the decision. I applaud Boeing.
The unions have ruined the state of Michigan and they will ruin every state if we let them. Even Walmart, the last bastion of non union employees has SEIU calling the shots now.
I had the same feeling as you did. I can't stop smiling.
I visited home in July of 2008. While at the Seattle Center, we watched a documentary on the IMAX theater, partly sponsored by Boeing. When we came out, a bunch of Boeing machinists were just getting out from a rally (they were all wearing union t-shirts). One of them turned to another and said something to the effect of "Oh look, the company can afford THAT", meaning – "why can they pay for that instead of giving it to ME?" That was the first I heard about the negotiations, but I knew then there was nothing the company could do to keep them from striking, and it would be bad for everyone around there, as the economy was teetering on the edge and we all knew it.
I talked to my cousin, who worked at Boeing Renton and he (not in the machinists union) explained the whole thing, saying they were pushing for too much related to the 787 and the companies new practices they were using to build it. they were mostly upset at the level of outsourcing the company was doing, which limited the number of machinist jobs (and thus union members). He thought it was rather stupid of the company because of the communication problems their strategy (and thus cost overruns and schedule delays) invariably invited. He was of the opinion the company was doing it deliberately marginalize the unions and the company's expensive labor. They were also using the same processes for all future aircraft and variants, including the 747-8.
We have plenty of cornfields here in Illinois. We also have plenty of fu**ing liberals. Wyoming and Montana are looking better with each passing day.
Yet our "smart" president thinks the govt. and unions are the tickets to American prosperity. What is wrong with these people? to them Detroit is Detroitopia, they crave a wasteland so they can be the messiahs to save them people, it has to be some sort of mental need they have to satisfy, its like the person who claims everyones racist because they know in their heart they are racist, so everyone else must be.
In the south we dont play the games with businesses the rest of the country do.
Being a former SEIU member, these Boeing employees are being “used” by the strong arm tactics of their unions. All the unions really care about is their union dues. So, they are constantly indoctrinating their members to keep asking for more. Because the more the employee gets in concessions&wage increases they can raise their dues. Maybe at one time they cared about their members, but it’s all about $$$$$$$
The Unions have our Government by the gonads, that is why the government is in so much trouble now, look
how much of government is unionized. They have over half of the health care industry, police, post office, an
many other parts now. They aren't going to much for the private sector anymore.
well its all about votes to, the democrats have the unions in their pocket and they want to keep it that way, the democrats want health care for the future reliable votes, people that are dependent on the govt. are reliable democratic voters, since the country has become more conservative the democratic party will do anything to try to remain relevant. The democrat liberalss have this fantasy that they are for freedom and the individual when in fact they are a mass of group think automatons, mau wannabes, they need shock treatment
The the workers will have to grow a set, if they dont stop following the unions, there will be more trouble for the workers, get the unions out an keep them out, its there only hope.
well, that is my point, instead of haggling over all sorts of concessions to stay, just go somewhere where everything is easy to deal with, and less costs. but the bad part in all of this is after the move. it seems the people who are transplanted to these friendly areas, keep voting for the party that created the problems in the first place. some people just don't learn. the reason most low cost areas are red, is because of the republican way of treating people and business, but the blue party is making inroads in these once easy areas of the country.
The fact that the South Carolina workers were able to vote out the union is because of secret ballots used in all normal voting in this country.That's why the card check legislation is so bad for this country.Unions are a major drag on this countries economy.The bailout of Detroit was for the UAW.
If this country moved away from government workers unions the taxpayers would save a ton of money.If you got rid of 50% of all government union employees,the only way you would realize it would be the massive swelling of this countries welfare roles.Illegal immigration would fall of dramatically.
I can't help but think of something I see on my Dentists wall.
"If you don't take care of your teeth, they will go away".
Hello, Politicians,
"If you don't take care of your businesses, they will go away."
"And they take their money with them."
Michigan is worse than Washington. There is a fair chance that the people in Washington may see the error of their ways, and become a right to work state. The people in the cities of Michigan have all drunk the kool aid of Jeremiah White. The "system" is to blame, not the unions, and the solution is more hand outs-not no more unions.
How much do the Unions Bosses make in Salary and benefits? How many of their relatives work for the union or get union contracts?
They're there, too! All the pretty people from Hollywood bought there.
There's still Idaho! And it's even prettier! Wish I was still there, instead of being trapped in CA.
Once again Michigan is a great example of offering tax benefits to new companies while letting existing companies try to pick up the slack. Goveror Granholm has perfected that ideology. And like Obama, the state that the state of Michigan is in is not her fault.
But the teat will be dry!
Time to write BOEING and tell them NO to UNIONS and SEIU !!!! Tell Boeing that we support the working man and fair wages but NOT UNIONS !!!!! Keep UNIONS out or stay the hell out of South Carliona !!!!!!
Having lived in Oregon and California most of my 70 years, I find it harder and harder to go to the poles when I know that my one vote is drowned by San Francisco and Oakland votes. We conservatives don't have a chance, so we go to our mountains, and our deserts and pretend everything is okay.
The corn fields are looking better and better with each passing year.
Tell them NO to UNIONS and SEIU !!!!!!!! We in SC need work not crap!!!
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Investor Relations: 312-544-2140
Well, no offense, but " all the pretty states"? They've got the west coast and the north east and Michigan and Illinois.
Now, as a Texan, I'd say the "cornfield" comment doesn't really cover what's left.
Its bitter sweet for me. I'm happy SC got the line but sad because I work in Snohomish County in Everett WA. where the second line could have gone and while its no jobs lost it means that there are no jobs gained (I know double negative…) and that would have been a real big boost to our local economy. All those workers would have need homes to live in.
So thank you union and dems you helped to f'ck us once again. Congrats SC!
To all the company execs considering the same move as Boeing: VIRGINIA is a Right to Work state too!!!! Come on over!!!
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Jason, who are the fascist militants that you are referring to? Are you saying if the current Congress gets reelected in 2010?
I signed your petition a few weeks ago, but I'd never threaten to move away. I'm here and I'll join with like-minded Americans and fight back. I can see parts of the country succeeding from the rest before the US in total got so bad that we'd need to leave. Remember, we're the majority. We can fight back. Wolverines!!!
Ya, I wouldn't move away either, I will die for this Country. I was being more sarcastic than anything else. And if Texas succeeds I will be moving there. But we do need to vote out everyone in Congress. It is time they go look for jobs like the rest of us.
Sometimes sarcasm isn't portrayed well online
I've spent most of my life in California. When I was a kid, it really was a pretty great place. Libs kept voting it into the tank. Then they didn't like what they had created, so they moved to places like Washington and took their liberal voting patterns with them. Then they ruined Washington, too. And they're surprised?
I take offense at your remark. There are plenty of beautiful states out there that are red. My own state of Georgia has plenty of beauty. We have beautiful mountains; a lovely coastline; the old beauty of Savannah; rivers; tall pine forests; sweet small towns, and large bustling cities; etc., etc., etc. And as an added bonus we have great Southern hospitality. So, speak for yourself.
Washington state is exceedingly top heavy in every facet of the government. The unions are very strong but they also turn out very skilled tradesmen who understand that they must be productive to compete in a free market. Somehow the union involved here forgot that and Boeing had to do something big or continue to incur insurmountable losses. Is that what the union wants? While the line in S.C. will no doubt help Boeing stay competitive it should also help the union in Everett realize their mistakes and get them back to reality, unless Obama et al steps in with a bailout for the union and sends more taxpayer money down the toilet.
Get out of WA – Come n down to SC .. Cost of linving is a lot cheaper (check home prices) and we are laid back…
The only way I see that happening is if the state splits between the libs on the coast & the normal people in the rest of the state. Western Washington is right up there with San Fran for sheer libtard lunacy. Right to work is taboo and expiating guilt (white guilt, eco-guilt, imperial guilt, sexual repression guilt, etc) through higher taxes is all the rage.
My apologies to all red-staters from pretty places.
I am apparently more prone to listening to the media than I thought. A lot of times in WA, you get the idea that the western and southern states only exist when there's a natural disaster there. Otherwise, they're like Guam–might be attached to the US but the MSM doesn't really want to admit it.
That said, much as I love the south, the humidity there kills me and, thanks to growing up near mountain ranges, the open spaces of the Midwest make me nervous.
That's why I didn't mention Montana. Ted Turner is the blight on Montana's landscape. Lots of the idiot (as in, not you) Californians are invading Montana everyday and making the locals crazy.
Every state should be a "right-to-work" state. Freedom of association is a right granted by the Constitution, so the Taft-Hartley act shouldn't be able delegate that determination to individual states. The "open shop" rule should apply to every state.
True, my apologies.
Seeing as I go to school in KY, I'm not sure where my head was. My only defense is that in Western WA, places like the south are entirely different countries. Liberals don't want to admit it exists & conservatives can't imagine it exists. (There are actually places where you don't get blacklisted for thinking Prius's are hideous wastes of space? Who knew?)
All we hear about are the middle states where all the election stuff plays out.
I wonder how much coverage this will get before the election. I'll be voting against Corzine regardless.
im a dedicated sears truck driver the reason sears dropped their own drivers was they were union and wanted way to much in money and benifits so sears got rid of the union now all their deliveries are made by out side truking companys the warehouse i work oput of theunion was trying to get in sears said they would shut it down cant blame them been driving over 20 years and many good local trucking co. went out of business because of over paid union drivers the list is very long accoding to what ive read a third of the cost of a new car goes for employee pay and benifits
big problem obama is a union lover and thru and i have a feeling he will cause many companys to move south of the boarder soon
We still can vote with our feet. Read where NYC has experienced huge net loss of tax revenue due to tax-flight. Adam Smith was a lot like physics. The effects of foolish policies are often delayed, but never prevented.
Vote on Tuesday! There are no meaningless issues!
It's not just Washington they're moving out of. They've also reduced their company presence in California to a small percentage of what it once was. The overhead costs in California are roughly double what they are in Colorado – leaving thousands of California Boeing employees in the last decade either out of work or having to pull up stakes and move.
Thanks to the tax assassins. I'm sure Arnold and the Democrats are very proud of themselves.
Unions v. Big Business? From what I can see they are both neck deep in the government slop trough. The first part of the problem was that auto unions demanded, as 'rights', what no competitive employer could promise in a capitalist market and still remain viable. The second piece, thanks to the advantage that government confers to unions, Detroit granted those demands anyway…many in perpetuity. The only employer that can grant these demand now is not a capitalist entity. Its cash flow is called tax-revenue. Government service (I know…oxymoron) workers are now the major piece of the union landscape with tentacles straight into everyone's paychecks. We can't even choose not to buy their products.
Absolutely right, vote the bums out!
Boeing's action is in keeping with the adage, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on ME." Boeing actually let itself be "fooled" by the Machinists four times in the last 20 years.
But last year's strike, at a time when the market crash was resulting in cancelled orders from airlines on the ropes, and deadlines looming for the Dreamliner rollout, finally opened the eyes of Boeing management.
As for Murray, Cantwell, Gregoire, and the Democrate-dominated legislature, boo-freakin-hoo. Just hope the voters here remember this debacle in the 2010 elections.
Kudos for all the great work you and the ELF do to maintain a modicum of sanity here in the land of damp green politics.
As an unwilling member of AFSCME for 17 years, I agree. The AFL-CIO is now dominated by unions who represent government employees, which is an incestuous relationship at best.
Murray got in office running as the "little mom in tennis shoes" fighting entrenched interests who "just don't get it." Now we in Washington State have to wear chest waders to get through all the sewage spewed from her roost in DC, and she's shocked to find Boeing's moving operations out of state.
It's way past time put her back in her tennis shoes.
Seattle is drunk on spending money for Boeing. I guess they jacked taxes and Boeing had enough. Boeing moved headquarters to chicago. Boeing had payment for the King dome built into Boeing and employee taxes.
conservatives get the cornfields because if liberals got the cornfields America would starve to death. The grown ups need to feed the whiny lazy children.
Yeeeehaw!
Y'all c'mon down here south of the Mason-Dixon Line. Besides the great business environment, we're pretty friendly, the cooking is to die for, and the ladies…well, they're drop dead gorgeous.
When are the uber-lib pols going to take a correspondence course in Econ 101?
The media and entertainment industries are heavily unionized as well. Why do you think there are so few strories by the (unionized) media about corruption on the part of (unionized) government employees…….
We here in California have a witches brew brewing, Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein, Waters and on and on and on and on. Maybe we can throw water and melt them all. Or just move to South Carolina, I think the grass "IS" greener on the other side.
What? No Acorn and SEIU to threaten the big wigs at BOEING??
Hey, OBAMA, CAN YOU HEAR US? We don't like your policies, your unions, nor your MARXIST ways. This is America in case you haven't noticed. I don't care what your mama told ya, we don't want communism and free enterprise and capitalism is the only way to live.
The IAM is a lot like the auto workers. The average IAM worker is in there late 50's early 60's and has been poisoned by union rhetoric for 20+ years. They are true believers in the union is their hero and the company is evil.
That now have gone into their typical 60 year old acting like a 2 year old pattern. Going into slow downs, and destructive behavior like flushing towels down the toilets. Some how making their "union brothers" janitors and maintenance workers fix toilets and clean restrooms is sticking it to the man. I am sure Jim Mcnerney is really damaged in Chicago by a stopped up toilet in Everett Washington.
I have worked for Boeing in both Washington and South Carolina. Company is definitely making the right move to bring new blood into the company.
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Thanks Annie for reposting this. I was surfing around this AM, found the headline and the link was gone when I clicked it. Started thinking it was some old headline that reappeared and was just really OLD news. Way to stay on top of it. LOL, to bad Corzine wasn't with him……..
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Yes! I'm in SC and it is very true that most workers here will not support the unions. We know that there are some advantages for workers to join unions but in the long run, the companies who become unionized fail. Just like the big automakers. What destroyed them was the crazy "cadillac plans" that the unions pushed for and the ridiculously high wages for unskilled laborers. Everyone wants to make a good wage, but the company has to make profits. I hope Boeing will be able to thrive here in SC. If they thrive, their workers will thrive, too.
Amen buddy. I'm a southern girl from North Carolina, now living in WA state. I love the beauty of the state and hate the libtards. We're drowing in liberalism here and I keep telling my husband it might just be time for me to go home.
Boeing didn't make this decision, it was forced on them by the union. They pushed them out of WA and forced them to find a friendlier home. May the South Carolina workers prosper and bring us great Boeing aircraft.
I hear what you are saying. I am from Texas, and miss it terribly, but left years ago and came to Montana. Why did I leave Texas? Too many non-Texans. Mark my words, many states are loosing their culture, due to the bastardification of other people moving in. Within one genreation, the south will be as screwed up as Kalifornia is, unless people are vigilant. it is happening as we speak in Montana, with two cultures, and mind sets: one in the west of the state, with their idiotic Kalifornia "down-home" ideas, and one ine the east of the state, that is traditional, agrarian, and family values based. These are scary times…………
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Reaction in Washington state ranges from the insulting ('Q: How can you tell a 787 assembled at the South Carolina plant? A: Confederate flag mud flaps on the landing gear.') to the dismissive (South Carolinians are a bunch of poorly-educated hicks who can't build high-tech airplanes). One union member pointed out with pride that the Boeing 737 line in Washington pops out an airplane a day, something SC could never do. Well, yeah — an airplane that's been in production for thirty years, using 1960s technology. with all the tooling and procedures fine-tuned. Auto workers in Detroit c. 1960 probably had the same opinion of upstarts like Toyota and Honda.
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Fantastic.
Management vs Union is no way to do business. Union equals lazy and over paid.
Don't forget CA produced Hoover, Nixon and Reagen.
California has some great conservative congressmen and we did recall Gray Davis. Gov. Arnold Kennedy was a huge error but we are trying. The Mayor of San Francisco Newsome pulled out of the Gov race because he can't raise money. Californians wont vote for the sodomite left. Newsome has bashed Californians to many time over prop 8.
My 2 brothers, a sister and my mother left California. The state employee unions are milking the state dry, but I have hope. The next Governor needs to be ruthless.
I would be so happy if my company moved to Texas.
Let the blue state refugees know to change there ways. They are turning Virginia purple.
SEIU janitors in Palo Alto Ca make 80-110K with benefits. Palo Alto is a city of 40k peeps and has a budget deficit of $10 million this year.
the union at Ford in Louisville just voted overwhelmingly against the contract even after Ford offered to move two car lines there. Said they "had given up enough and weren't going to take it any more".. Gee, wonder where they plan on working in the future. Never heard of the recently deceased steel industry, I guess. The workers in Sterling Michigan have asked for a second vote after having thought it over – where do they think they could ever find jobs there again???
As the machinists and the Unions wring their hands, maybe they will learn from this episode. I'm nmot holding my breath, but anything is possible.
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